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the 49-year-old as mick jagger's girlfriend for more than a decade. also this morning anchors at ktla took cover under their desks when a 4.4 magnitude earthquake shook the los angeles area this morning. no reports of major injuries or damage, but quite a scare there, anderson. they recovered, though, quite well. >> poppy, thanks very much. we'll have more throughout the night on the missing malaysia airlines flight. we'll be back at 11:00 eastern for another edition of "360." piers morgan live starts now. this is "piers morgan live" and i am not piers morgan, but don't worry, he will be back next week to pick up his rod stewart albums and tell us his future plans. in the meantime, my name is bill weir and i think you're thinking, hey, maybe this new guy on cnn knows where the plane is. oh, if only. what makes this mystery so fascinating for all of us is exactly what makes it so frustrating for the entire world, especially for all those fathers and mothers, brothers,
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wives, children from 15 different countries who have been riding an elevator of dread and hope since we all learned the basics on march 8th. flight 370 disappeared 40 minutes into a flight to beijing. ten days later, those are still the only concrete, confirmable facts upon which the world can agree. search areas are supposed to get smaller over time. this one has only gotten bigger. investigations are supposed to eliminate possibilities over time. in this case, each new day brings new conflicting crumbs and a host of new questions about the flight path and fuel range and radar systems in kazakhstan and the political persuasion of pilots who keep flight simulators in their living rooms and whether a 777 can stay hidden by drafting in the shadow of another 777. yikes. so tonight we will put all of these questions to a panel of the best aviation and security minds we can find. and we have new information, a new word from the chief executive of malaysia airlines
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that casts doubt into whether they are even looking in the right ocean. our big story is, of course, the fate of flight 370. and why don't we begin in the country leading the so-called investigation. kyung lah is in kuala lumpur. good to see you. i guess anybody watching this story wouldn't be blamed if they rolled their eyes every time they heard the words "senior malaysian official." they're not exactly filling us with confidence. but what about the people there? what are the folks in malaysia making of all of this? >> reporter: oh, they're rolling their eyes here. there is a lot of frustration here in malaysia as to how all of this is being handled, but there is intense interest here. every single second of the local newscast is being dedicated to the search and to the investigation and into the backgrounds of all these people. remember, a third of the people aboard that plane are malaysian.
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just look at the papers. this is this morning's papers. it's almost this entire newspaper is dedicated to news of what's happening here as far as the investigation. so a lot of interest, but certainly there's a lot of criticism about how the government is handling all of this, bill. >> included in those questions is the fact they didn't even bother to look into the pilot's background until recently. they finally searched that. and so now we're getting new information on zaharie ahme zaharie ahmed shah and his political persuasions, wondering if there's anything in his personality or his politics to lead us to suspect that he did something very bad with this plane. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, let me walk you through all of this. where that's coming from is some suspicious timing. let me lay the groundwork for you. here in malaysia, there's one political party that has effectively ruled this country. it's as if the republicans would
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have control of the united states for 60 years straight. that's effectively what's happened here in malaysia. so the ruling party has been criticized for a good bit of corruption, and that's frustrated people, just like this pilot. this pilot supported the opposition party, the minority party, and it's led by a guy named anwar ibrahim. and anwar has been really butting heads with the ruling party. well, the day before, just hours before this malaysia airlines actually went and took off from the airport behind me, anwar was sentenced to prison. he was convicted -- an appeals court overruled a charge from a lower court sending him back to jail for a sodomy charge. sodomy is illegal here so a lot of people here in malaysia were upset and that's where this narrative is coming from. did the pilot down this plane
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for political reasons. but anwar saying that's not true. >> there's a big leap between being political active against the ruling party and being a mass murderer, so a lot to find out, more about him. kyung lah, thank you for your reporting. all those time zones and five-second delays away. now let's bring in john, the aerospace boeing reporter for the "wall street journal." you wrote tonight, it hit the web and will be in tomorrow's paper about this new wrinkle that casts all kinds of doubt into the timeline that we have been extrapolating so long. tell us what this malaysian official told you. >> what we learned earlier today is that our expectation of how this entire situation began to unfold ten days ago is not exactly as we first thought. so on saturday afternoon in malaysia, the prime minister initially stated that the sequence of events had initially -- the deactivation of a key reporting system, we've
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been hearing it on cnn, acars. >> we know all about acars, yes. >> and that began the sequence of events that led up to the transponder being deactivated. what was not clear at that point was what information the malaysian officials had to suggest why exactly they thought the acars system had been shut down. there was some confusion about that. the defense and transportation minister stated the following day that in fact the situation was, yes, that was the order. the acars had been shut down. the final call had been made by the crew and the transponder shut off. and that was really served as the basis for a lot of the suspicions that someone on board was responsible for deliberately steering this aircraft very significantly off course. >> right. >> at this point what we have is almost a 180-degree reversal saying that the government expected that the last acars message was going to come a bit before it came and then the one they expected later never came,
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so we don't actually know or why the malaiysian government believes the acars system was shut down. >> riechght. so the idea that someone in the cockpit, the pilot, the co-pilot or somebody else turned off the acars and then said "all right, good night" is a fallacy because it didn't send a beep 30 minutes later like it was supposed to. it could have stopped working because the plane had crashed, right? >> well, there are a lot of different possibilities about what could have gone on. certainly we've seen anything from the suspicion that someone took control of this airplane early on during its crossing across the gulf of thailand or there was some type of mechanical catastrophic failure, some type of fire or decompression that caused this to unfold. we really don't know at this point. we're really suffering from a terrible lack of information. at every turn in this investigation there has been a likely option and a less likely
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scenario that has unfolded. at each point when faced with those two options, we've continually gone down the less likely road. >> right. >> and we've done that three or four times now. >> but again, ten days into this, we're wondering if we're looking in the right ocean again. whether this thing took a left turn because it's possible that it didn't. before you go, i assume that many of your sources are americans. what do they say about the malaysian investigation and their involvement therein? >> well, there's -- i won't speak to my sources, of course, but there is a broad sense that there's frustration there. and that's not limited to any officials in this country, the u.s., or anywhere else in europe or asia. so certainly there is quite a bit of frustration that's being felt as far as the speed of this unfolding. and certainly this is going to be something that is going to be focused on over the next several days and weeks as this unfolds and whether or not this
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investigation and this search can be carried out in a way that delivers results for all the interested parties. >> all right. we appreciate your insight. you are at least trying to frame this with the block of salt we should be taking as we try to figure out what happened to this flight. someone else who has some interesting theories is a gentleman by the name of jim tilmon, one of our cnn aviation contributors, a former pilot with american. jim, thanks for being with us. so does that change your opinion? you, i think, were about to float sort of a more extreme theory about what happened to this plane. are you going to go with that or are you going to pull back? >> bill, i don't know what to believe. i've heard just about everything you can imagine. it's like somebody is writing children's stories without any concern for the kids. i've got to tell you that this whole thing is so perplexing that i've left a lot of my thinking about the details of what happened before the
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airplane ended up at a point where just about everybody agrees was the end point for them, but not the end game. the end game is a different thing. i want to roll something by you and it's far-fetched, it's crazy, call me whatever names to fit the deal. >> hey, go ahead, bring it. bring it. >> yeah, i'm going to bring it. i ask myself what is the end game. why would they do this if they in fact are doing it deliberately? why would they take an airplane full of passengers and roar around the skies and hide it or do whatever else they're doing underneath the radar? why would they do this? what do they want this for? now, what would happen if they did in fact find a way to land, refuel, take off again and then threaten the integrity of certain kinds of structures. structures like the white house, the eiffel tower, what's the name of that really tall building in that area. what if they had threatened those in a 9/11-type approach.
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>> why wouldn't they have done that in the few hours after they had taken the plane? why would they land it with 230 people on board, refuel and then make an attack? >> i don't know why they have done all of those things. i'm telling you that i have no clue as to how they managed to land the airplane and refuel it from a truck tanker or whatever else. i just believe that they do have that as part of their plan. these are very skillful people, i believe. very, very smart, very, very good pilots. >> who's they? who's they, jim? in your theory. >> you might as well call them ghosts because i have no idea who they are. i don't know what their affiliation with somebody would be, whether it's an organization or it's just a group of people who want to create havoc. i can only tell you that i wanted to find out if there was anything that would be meaningful to anybody, an individual or group of people or
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whatever else to take this airplane full of these passengers and go flying around the skies. and if they did in fact threaten some kind of property on the ground, who would make the decision about what they're going to do about it? you've got all of these nations involved. you've got 75 different people on there other than a large group of chinese on there. >> 25 nations. >> all right. somebody said, well, we've got to shoot it down, we can't let it fly into the whatever, what kind of a diplomatic mess would that be around the world. >> jim, you are taking us like three nightmares into the future. let's focus on the one we've got. but i appreciate you being here. hold that thought, we'd like you to stick around. we want to talk about more with you based on your aviation experience. we also have veteran members of the cia, other pilots. now there's a theory that -- not only that the missing plane could be used as a weapon, that we should be doing voice analysis of "all right, good night" and see where that leads
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welcome back. bill weir in for piers morgan tonight. i want to go back to this timeline as it relates to acars. we got new word that there is confusion. a conflicting report between what the malaysian government was saying yesterday and now what the chief executive of malaysia airlines is saying today. we all now acars, we've kind of learned that this is this system that lets planes communicate with each other or ground stations via radio or satellite. and what we do know is that at 12:41 local time they took off. acars sent its last communication at 1:07. now, we were under the impression yesterday believing if we listened to the defense minister there in malaysia that he said that was shut off, then he said "all right, good night" which is very suspicious. then a couple of minutes later
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at 1:21, the transponder goes off. all hell breaks loose. at 1:30 it loses control. but what we're missing here is at 1:37 the acars' expected transmission didn't happen. so what this malaysian airlines executive is saying, it doesn't mean someone shut it off, it just didn't go off on the half hour as it was scheduled to do. this casts doubt into whether that plane took a left turn and went into the indian ocean and got pinged by that saltellite which is why we're looking at half of the planet. bringing in jim tilmon, he has a theory that the plane is somewhere being refueled, might be used as a weapon. we're also welcoming patrick skinner to his right there, former cia counterterrorism expert and air marshal. we also have david suchi, the author of "why planes crash" and
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general james marks, one of our cnn military analysts. gentlemen, first let me start with you, pat skinner, what about this new information, are we back to square one with this search now? >> yeah, i think we are practically. unlike any other case, there are no traditional aviation markers or clues that you can use to pinpoint not exactly what happened but where it happened or when it happened. let alone why. we don't have the debris field or the missing black box. there's no transponder. there's no mayday call. no one else heard anything. so we're having to rely on radars and satellite images and transmissions that were never designed to pinpoint this kind of accident and so, therefore, really understandable that there would be mistakes or corrections to the record because frankly this is unprecedented and the systems they're using to try to find this missing plane really weren't designed for this.
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>> david, i guess by definition, all air disaster reporting is speculation until you can actually pick up the pieces and put them back together. but ten days, 11 days in, are we in for the long haul? what do you think about this latest conflicting report out of malaysia? >> well, with the acars system that really doesn't change too much in my mind about what happened. the acars system is also designed that if anything else happens irregular on the aircraft, it will send an immediate signal out, so it's not like it only sends a signal every 30 minutes. that's not the situation. >> okay. >> so if anything else happened between there, it still would have sent something. so if the transponder was turned off, for example, the acars would have sent a message saying so. if there was a fire on board, if there was dramatic changes to the aircraft during that time period, all of that would have been reported on the acars system if it was capable of doing that. if the acars had been turned off, it wouldn't have been
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capable of doing that. we know the transponder was turned off and the acars system did not transmit. so in my mind it's just clarifying -- the malaysian government is just clarifying that it could be that it was just sent here and it was sent here. they can't verify that it was truly turned off with a switch. it doesn't mean it wasn't off. >> you can jump in on this, jim tilmon or anybody, if these instruments, the transponder, the acars are so vital, why do they have an off switch? >> you want an off switch on anything you can turn on in that cockpit. i don't want to fly a cockpit that has electronics in it that i can't turn off if the thing wants to catch fire or something. >> spider, again, i'm layering heavy skepticism into the malaysian investigation on this sort of thing. >> easy to do. >> easy to do, yeah. how does that change? at this point we've got 25 nations involved, a lot of them don't like each other. they don't want to know each other -- or don't want each
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other to know their radar capabilities. how do we help them help us know what's going on? >> well, that's the key point. i think up front without casting aspersions, the malaysians didn't embrace what was out there and what could have assisted initially. you know, our embassy has an fbi presence. our embassy -- all embassies have an intelligence presence. so immediately had the malaysians embraced what was in malaysia the united states, at a minimum could have come forward and started opening its books and it would have to assist in the investigation. and then at this point you'd hope that there would have been kind of a cascading effect of assistance that would come in, additional fbi investigators and then additional intel folks who could come in and start piecing all this together. truly, this is not unlike a crime scene. and in fact it should have been handled like a crime scene up front, so you can immediately assume that all 239 souls on
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board were suspects until you took them out of the picture and everybody that touched that aircraft 24 hours before it originated on the flight should have been investigated and that should have been aggressive and wide open immediately. and my understanding, at least the way it's been covered, is that did not happen. so moving forward, can you get over the hubris, can you get over the initial false start and can you now do that? certainly that needs to be done. >> since david set me straight on that acars thing, so let's talk about this thing and the fact that it might have flown that northern route and the southern route, we come back and another part of the story raising a lot of questions, was it literally flying under the radar or masking itself in the shadow of another 777. that was e.a new theory burningp the internet today. we'll ask these men when we come back. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin
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a little bit of breaking news now from "the new york times" just now reporting that the flight 370 turned to the west from its planned flight path at the direction of a computer system that was likely programmed by someone in the cockpit. we've just gotten this. whoever altered flight 370's path typed seven or eight key strokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and first officer,
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according to u.s. officials. let's bring in jim -- let's bring in jim and david to react to that. david, obviously the american officials leaking this information share some of our frustration with word from the malaysians, but what do you make of this? >> you know, we have been having frustration all along and it's just -- i've become, like jim tilmon mentioned, a little hesitant to accept any new information immediately from any source at this point. >> smart man. >> but i do think -- could we touch on that a little bit because i think that this whole investigation, all of it from any investigation that i've been involved in has frustration with it and the fewer the answers, the more frustrating it becomes and then your team starts falling apart. i think that's kind of where we are now. i was admiring the team for how they came together during the search and now at this point it seems like it's diverged into separate investigations with the military drawing out and the navy drawing out.
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i'm very concerned about where this investigation is headed at this point. >> jim tilmon, do you want to digest this latest report that somebody punched a sort of co coordinate change into that cockpit controller? >> well, it would support the idea that it was definitely deliberate, and then it sort of gives you a sequence of activities that follow that deliberate approach giving the feel that somebody really wanted this thing to go wrong. >> one of the theories now since we are talking about not just this report but the satellite ping that put it well west and then perhaps that northern track into asia and across china into this is in order for that to happen, the plane had to duck radar intentionally along the way. greg, as author of "small and short range radar systems," i've read it three or four times. i love it. >> thank you.
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>> first of all, before we get into that, radar for dummies. real quick. >> real quick. so your viewers can do this at home. get a flashlight, get a swivel chair. turn off the lights, put the flashlight on your head and spin around. what the flashlight bounces off of is what the radar seize. >> our perception of radar in the modern age is that it's sophisticated enough, it's on the border of all these countries, that it can see a pigeon flying into their airspace. that's probably an exaggeration. >> that would be. assuming the pigeon is close enough, maybe you can see one. >> what about a 777, could it fly over china into kazakhstan without being noticed? how would that have to happen? >> anything like this is possible, but to do it you'd have to have very detailed information of the type of radars, their disposition, their heights and their wayiforms to pull that off. >> so it would be like a video game.
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the pilot would have to know a certain altitude and path to go. >> he'd have to know a lot. >> when the indian government says, you know, we're more focused on the pakistan border for obvious reasons, we don't pay as much attention to the bay of bengal down there, does that surprise you? >> i can't speak to their geopolitical situation. iwouldn't surprise me one bit. >> spider marks, you can speak to this. what do you think when the indians say, eh, you can probably get in here whereas the president of kazakhstan is saying we would try to shoot you down if you tried that? >> i doubt that's very -- i doubt that's true. what this really gets to is in order for this to happen, i mean this is conjecture and it's bounded a little bit, but in order for this to happen, there clearly had -- we would have to have a much greater understanding of the pilot and the co-pilot. and again, getting back to who were those folks on board and who would be motivated to do this. at this point in an investigation, ten days on, as you've indicated, bill, we would
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have a great understanding of what the motivations are of all those folks and we don't. we simply don't. so we have these flights of fancy. we've got this conjecture just running out there and a thousand different theories. we need to bound this thing a little bit and get back to what we know and what we don't know and walk ourselves through what the possible outcomes might be. >> you know how cable news works, don't you, spider? we've got time to fill here. so yeah. before we bind our conjecture, let me ask greg about another one that blew up today online. this hobbyist aviator looked at other flight paths in this area and found a singapore airline 777 that was flying a certain way. the theory he floated was what if flight 370 sort of, you know, did a little slip streaming, got in the shadow of that where it would pass itself off as one
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plane, without that plane in front of him knowing. possible? >> it's possible. probable? i would say that's a question for a pilot. how close are you willing to fly to the other plane. you know, it's definitely possible. you'd also have to understand the wayiforms used by the other radar. are they long or little? if it's little, then it would be hard to do. >> david soucie, what do you think of this theory? >> i think it's highly possible to do that, in fact it's been done before. they reported this morning on cnn that it has been done before and we've got people researching to find out specifically when that was and what flight it was. but in order to do that, you would, as your previous guest mentioned, you'd have to have extremely good pilot skills and you'd have to know what type of radar is looking at you to know how close you'd have to be. but i'm not underestimating any of this. i do think that there's foul play here. i'm not underestimating what it would take to have the systems
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knowledge to do what they have done. this is highly planned, it's highly skilled people trying to put this together. i don't see any other way it would. so i'm not underestimating the capabilities of whoever is pulling this off. >> are there levels of trust in terms of radar in these countries, you know, in terms of sophistication? we think everything is cutting edge, but there's some pre-soviet era radar systems here? >> there could be anything out there. unfortunately, you can't google radar systems in china and find out what they are. that's very protected information. but a lot of stuff tends to be very old, yeah. >> it tends to be old and sometimes they shut it down at night to save money. >> you might have all the equipment where you have two at one sight and keep one going while the other is being repaired. these are all possibilities but if you design -- if they did it right, they have accounted for this stuff. >> spider marks, can we trust their radar? can we trust the malaysian military's radar when they say
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we saw something cross the sky, we weren't sure exactly what it was on its way to the indian ocean. do you believe that? >> speaking to an expert today, i understand malaysia within the last year upgraded their radar system. so if we can put -- so if we can put on the table that they had the very latest state of the art, then you get into whether it worked or didn't work based on the operator. at 1:30 in the morning was it on, was anybody looking at it? having spent a whole host of my life during those very, very dark hours, i can understand how there might be somebody who won't necessarily be the number one guy who's got his head or her head in the game at that very moment. >> but with this upgraded -- >> that's conjecture too. >> let me ask you, though, with that upgraded system, is there a recorder on there or if you go out to get a cup of coffee and you miss the blip crossing the screen, you missed it? >> you might miss it at that moment, but all that would be downloaded and that would be available for forensics. >> you could go back
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forensically. interesting. thank you so much, appreciate your insight. all you gentlemen stick around. coming up, the flight simulator in the pilot's home. to some that is a red flag. to others, it's just a passion of pilot doing what he loves, even on weekends. i want to find out what our experts think. i think you might too. i reckon a storm's a brewin'. reckon so. reckon you gotta hotel? reckon, no. reckon priceline express deals will get you a great deal. wherever you...mosey. you reckon? we reckon. vamonos the spring hotel sale is on at save up to 60% on any express deal hotel, when you use code: spring '14. i reckon this is one deal you won't want to miss.
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breaking news, "the new york times" now reporting that it was flight 370's computer that sent that plane off its flight path on the way to beijing. i want to bring in jon, our aerospace boeing reporter for "the wall street journal." so this seems to buttress some of your reporting from friday, right, jon? >> both duplicate and buttress. we addressed this last friday specifically when we talked about the manual change that was made to the aircraft. of course there's a lot of us chasing this story around the world right now, and certainly there are going to be new revelations about what specifically took place here. the manual change that we referenced last friday, specifically referred to an input to the computer system actually. which either could have been on the flight management computer or the auto pilot panel. so at the end of the day this is certainly building on the idea that u.s. officials believe that there was a manual change made to the aircraft.
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for what purpose, that certainy is up for grabs at this point. >> and beyond just taking it's the yoke and turning it to the left, someone was punching in coordinates. let's bring in the rest of our panel, jim tilmon, david soucie, spider marks. we're going to get into the simulator and into his -- in the pilot's house. but this "all right, good night," i saw some questions today. we actually got one from a veteran pilot, also an american pilot, who says that's not how pilots talk to each other, that he would have to usually say roger and put the call sign in there somewhere. jim, what do you think about "all right, good night." >> well, i've heard both extremes. i've heard guys just casually say, "all right, have a good night," whatever else. most pilots will do exactly what this other gentleman said, they
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will say, so and so 170 flight level 230 roger or whatever else. or give the frequency that he's been asked to change to and once he says that frequency, then he can be acknowledged on the ground and make sure he has the right frequency if they're going to have to change. i agree that it's out of the protocol, but i'm not sure that it wasn't just somebody that was really casual. >> yeah, i mean this guy was suggesting that they do some sort of voice recognition. david soucie, what do you think, "all right, good night," is that how they talk to each other? >> well, jim's right. technically what you're supposed to do is that but after spending thousands of hours riding around surveiling pilots and observing what they do and don't do, even with an faa inspector on board myself listening to what they're saying, they are casual and they're calm. and when you're transferring with someone you've been talking to for an hour over the control area and then you transfer to the next control area, after
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you've exchanged your frequencies, then at that point it is kind of a casual exchange of saying, "all right, good night" and a lot of guys will say thank you and move on to the next area. >> patrick skinner, how common is it for a pilot with 15,000 hours, like mr. shah, to have an elaborate flight simulator in his house? i mean some guys, i suppose, love flying so much they want to do it all the time, but a guy with this much experience, is that common? >> well, i can't speak if it's common or not but i can say that it's probably not alerting by itself. it doesn't really mean anything. what is on the simulator would mean a great deal. if he's an enthusiast or a hobby, obviously he's a professional captain, he should have some passion for it. but that's not the big deal. i would say that searching the simulator and seeing what flight paths were on there or if there is any kind of low-level or high-level maneuvers that is consistent with what the radar is showing us now, that would be
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highly important. >> and could you -- david, could you wipe that? i suppose you could, right? if he was thinking ahead and covering his tracks? >> oh, i'm sure he could. it's -- although it looks very complex, it is a simple computer running off of a simple computer relatively. but i don't think it's too suspect either. i don't know -- i don't know any pilots actually who have that sophisticated of a flight simulator at home, but those are pilots who have access to flight sim larulators to maintain thei skills and capabilities. in a little bit more area like where he was from, he probably didn't have that access and was passionate about maintaining his skills. so i don't really think that that's that, but again as the previous speaker said, the information, it's in the pudding. where do you fly, houw often di he go? did he continually try to improve his skills in low-level
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flying in mountainous areas. those are the things you'd be looking for in this investigation. >> by all accounts this pilot is a loving father of three and a good guy. it would be a shame if he is a suspect erroneously through all this, but this is what happens when you have no facts. let's check in with don lemon. he is hosting a cnn special report, the mystery of flight 370, the top of the hour, every aspect of the story. you have been tweeting him your questions throughout the day. don, what are you getting? what's a common theme you're getting tonight? >> bill, i can only imagine what your twitter feed is like. you should see what mine is like. my e-mail, facebook, everything on social media. a couple of things that we're getting. and we have been discussing this hour after hour, but people at home aren't necessarily going tit for tat with us and going every single minute with us. here's what cindy cole says. what have we been told about the absence of mh 370 cell phone contact, no photos, texts, calls. that's incredible and of course if you want them answered, send them to the hash tag #370qs.
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which means 370 questions. we've talked a lot about that on the air, bill, about whether or not the folks on the plane have had -- do they have wi-fi, access to wi-fi. were they able to pick up on their cell phones. why aren't they using the find my cell phone app. all of those questions. another one says could the plane have landed back in malaysia and turns out they are just throwing the search off while they hide? we'll ask a panel of experts. we have a pilot with us, we have cnn's analyst, we have other analysts as well. we also have a radar expert who can drill down for us exactly how they could have tracked that plane and what all those pings might have missed. this is a viewer's chance right now coming up at 10:00 p.m. eastern to have all of their questions answered, bill. >> all right, don, we look forward to it. special report, the mystery of flight 370 top of the hour at 10:00 eastern. coming up, a leading psychiatrist talks about maybe the red flags he might see in the pilot's histories and also advice for the families clinging
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break news once again, the "new york times" is reporting that it was flight 370's computer that led it off its flight path to beijing and it was programmed intentionally. the emotional roller coaster continues for the families of the 370 family. dr. michael wellner is with me. we worked together at abc. good to see you again. >> nice to see you. >> take a look at the pilots. have you looked into these guys as a forensic psychiatrist and do you see anything that gives you information as to whether they did something bad here?
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>> we're operating in a reference point this is not mechanical failure and signals are going to the pilots for having sophistication. murder/suicide usually involves a plane into the water. >> egypt air. >> egypt air and silk air. you had someone on the manifest who was a boss and someone he had a grudge with. you have a flight with a wandering path that doesn't fit. you have a plane that is fleeing direction. and those who are carrying out a murder/suicide, they want to be seen. there is no chatter here. there is under cover of night. >> what is the motive? >> what's left? the possibility of piracy? piracy of property and people.
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>> they're going to sell the jet? >> of the plane. >> or -- hold them as hostages. >> the plane took off. you leave the scene to not be apprehended and get away with whatever one wants to get away with. if it wasn't mechanical failure and not intentional, the previous murder/suicides of pilots which are extremely rare. >> this is a woman who is a partner of missing american philip wood and she refuses to give up hope. watch. >> my bag is packed and ready to go. it has been since saturday morning. >> ready to go where? >> wherever he is. my son even helped me pick out which clothes to pick out for him so i have that in my
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backpack. he wouldn't want to wear his dirty old stuff any more or a hostage gown, if that's the case. so it's all ready. >> i don't know i could be as strong as she is being there. we all put ourselves in that position and i just wonder this up and down. the plane is in the sea. oh, wait it's maybe on the ground somewhere. does that hurt these folks in the long run? >> a loved one can't watch the news. one would be exposed to false hope and being misled. for a loved one in this situation, there is one thing to do, pray and be determined that your loved one will come home. we saw it in elizabeth smart and with jayce dugard and holocaust loved ones decades later. if we were in that situation we wouldn't want someone to give up on us. if people are captors, they
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manipulate the sensibility that no one cares. you have to show them that you will hang in until they get word you are a victim. do not give up hope and maintain your belief in prayer. >> those are the most rousing words i have heard all day on this. thank you, doc. we'll be right back. anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria. i should probably take this. live the regular life. phillips'. ♪
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forensic psychiatrists look at some of the most confusing scenes and ask themselves a couple of questions. what are those? >> if you have facts all over the place you look at victimnology and perpetrator. the victimnology, the malaysian people and the chinese. particular and unusual who would -- >> most of the passengers were chinese. >> who would dare victimize the chinese? what country would pick a fight with the chinese. we have been looking at the al qaeda separatist groups. many people overlook that the mass stabbing that took place in the train station. they extended their reach 900 miles beyond the province where they are based. is this an extension of reach. you draw relevance to your terrorist movement. and in terms of the
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modus operandi, you have a wandering plane that escaped. and the perpetrator, we don't know who was on that plane. >> you look at the pilots and their ages. if we are considering them suspects. >> if we only look at the pilots? >> well, terrorism is a young man's game. 50-years-old are the psychopaths who guide them. the muslim brotherhood has been known to orchestrate kidnappings to free its leaders. it's best to keep ones mind open about them and the others on the plane. >> that would point to the iranians with the fake
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passports. >> iran and china have a close relationship and boy, are the chinese quiet. >> thanks for your time tonight. that's all for us. don lemon has the latest on the "new york times" reporting. >> this is a cnn special report, the mystery of flight 370. i'm don lemon. we're going to begin with breaking news from the "new york times" tonight. they are reporting that the flight turned to the west at the direction of a computer system that was likely programmed by someone in the plane's cockpit. another piece of evidence that points to the involvement of the crew into the disappearance of the plane. as far as we know, no one on earth has heard anything from the 239 people on board since then. but there are so many questions. we have been hearing from you since it happened. and tonight for the nt


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